I got tired of people clumping paganism and Wicca together as one umbrella thing so I made a Venn Diagram to express my disappointment.


Note: Neo-Wicca is the same as normal Wicca but it doesn’t require coven ties or adhering strictly to a single path.

I’m having a fucking stroke.

Okay wtf is your problem. It seems like you have a fucking problem with everything. Did you know that not every practice has to be the same. Not everyone has to believe that you do? Fuck off outta here

This is actually factually incorrect. Your anger/deflection is not accurate.

Neo Wicca and Wicca are 100% NOT the same. Neo Wicca is a hodge podge of bullshit pulled from every source imaginable mostly to sell teenagers shitty crystals.

Legitimate Wiccan traditions are initiatory, ceremonial traditions and SECRET, meaning their traditions and practices are SECRET to outsiders.

NeoWiccans CANNOT POSSIBLY be doing the same things Wiccans are because Wiccans aren’t sharing them. Full stop.

NeoWicca is a waterdown mess that varies from person to person.

This isn’t my opinion. This is literally fact.

The rest is very vague, and depending on what definition of Pagan we’re going with would change the right half of the graph but it’s sufficient to say that Pagans are actually nature based in general because other groups that fall under “Pagans” per ignorant definitions don’t actually LIKE being referred to as Pagan.

Where does it say anything about neo wiccanism???

You’re getting heated over something that’s not even mentioned here.

As someone who has followed druid beliefs, pagan beliefs, and Wiccan beliefs.





1. Magic is magic

2. Any belief whether “watered down” is still someone’s belief. Respect it.

3. Guess what? Wicca uses crystals as a conduit for magic

4. Paganism has magic based on runes

5. Shut up

6. Druids are just as hated by everyone as paganism, and Wiccans. (All went through some sort of genocide)

That is factually wrong. Wicca, paganism, and Druidism are all religions, it’s not based on the tools.

I know its not based on tools they are conduits. Your right for bringing that to my attention I said based XD. I also didn’t mean all magic in paganism uses runes. They are still beliefs though so im not fixing that. Each one uses a conduit of some kind for different things though. Even if its just yourself or the words or even the sigils.


I fixed it by adding notes hope that helps I did really make a mess there XD)

Oh thank goodness, I thought you meant all paganism was based on runes.

I think conduits are less about religion and more about what’s available and what works for specific purposes?

Witches who happen to follow a religion tend to use whatever’s most available to them or feels more appropriate for their deities (like Norse pagans/Heathens using runes), so I can agree on that.

I haven’t heard of Wicca using specific conduits, and Wicca is heavily saturated in the modern witchcraft book market.

Paganism is about the deities you follow or even how you follow them, it’s less of a type if witchcraft and is a religion (albeit way more lax than some others).

Thank you for being able to have a polite conversation about this!

Tell me your thoughts?

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